Memorising lists and procedures

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gspencer

02 Jun, 2015 02:58 AM

Hey there, I've been using Anki for a few months now. I've been using it for school work, but want to expand my use into memorizing procedures for my private pilot’s license. For example:

Pre-landing check
1 Fuel on both
2 Flaps up
3 Mixture rich
4 Throttle set
5 Carb heat on
6 Landing light on
7 Circuit breakers in
8 Mags on both
9 Primer in/locked
10 Gauges green
11 Doors and seat belts secure
12 Altitude check

What is the best way to learn lists like this? In the old days I would cover the list with a piece of paper and try to answer each point in succession, but that doesn’t seem to work with anki.

Thanks in advance.

  1. 1 Posted by Alex RW on 02 Jun, 2015 11:56 AM

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    You can probably try out cloze deletions: Create 12 deletions accoring to the pattern I give below and study them one after another just as you study normal cards. The Anki manul gives you all the instructions on how to create clozed note types

    http://ankisrs.net/docs/manual.html

    Card 1
    1 [...]
    2 Flaps up
    3 Mixture rich
    4 Throttle set
    5 Carb heat on
    6 Landing light on
    7 Circuit breakers in
    8 Mags on both
    9 Primer in/locked
    10 Gauges green
    11 Doors and seat belts secure
    12 Altitude check

    Card 2

    1 Fuel on both
    2 [...]
    3 Mixture rich
    4 Throttle set
    5 Carb heat on
    6 Landing light on
    7 Circuit breakers in
    8 Mags on both
    9 Primer in/locked
    10 Gauges green
    11 Doors and seat belts secure
    12 Altitude check

    Card 3
    1 Fuel on both
    2 Flaps up
    3 [...]
    4 Throttle set
    5 Carb heat on
    6 Landing light on
    7 Circuit breakers in
    8 Mags on both
    9 Primer in/locked
    10 Gauges green
    11 Doors and seat belts secure
    12 Altitude check

    etc.

  2. 2 Posted by Vit on 03 Jun, 2015 05:15 AM

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    Paper cards is the best choice -- for many reasons.

  3. 3 Posted by gspencer on 03 Jun, 2015 06:11 AM

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    Alex: I've tried that before and I don't seem to learn from using a cloze in a long list ... I'm toying with the idea of leaving enough white space between the individual lines and scrolling down for the next item.

    Vit: Perhapse, but the whole point of anki is to avoid the use of paper flashcards. =)

    Thanks for the responses

  4. 4 Posted by Vit on 04 Jun, 2015 12:41 AM

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    the whole point of anki is to avoid the use of paper flashcards. =)

    1. Anki: "Avoid the Long Lists in Anki"
    2. Anki: "Learn the material outside of ANki " ... and then check the answers and use Anki scheduling for memorizing it".

    I start with Paper cards.
    My cards for your Procedure ( Paper or ANki Basic type Note, not the Cloze!) would look like:

    Tags: Pre-landing check

    Front: Pre-landing check
    Back: 1 Fuel on both
    2 Flaps up

    Front: 2 Flaps up
    Back: 3 Mixture rich
    4 Throttle set

    Front: 4 Throttle set
    Back: 5 Carb heat on
    6 Landing light on

    I would try three Steps on the back ( we can memorize 4-7 cards at once ).

    You can carry the cards with you and cram then at any time of day.

    After one-two days of cramming multiple times a day, i switch to Leitner-like method ; but instead of 4 boxes i use 30 sections of an organizer called :"Every day file and fast sorter." Here is the link:
    http://dbsofficesupplies.ca/index.php?id_category=162&controlle...

    This File works like a Scheduler; and you decide the 'size' of the next interval .
    After a card scheduled for 21 days, i plan to transfer it to Anki.

    I hope you would find something of use.

  5. 5 Posted by Alex RW on 04 Jun, 2015 02:30 PM

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    >>After a card scheduled for 21 days, i plan to transfer it to Anki.

    Wow. Are you saying that Anki algorithm can be efficiently used only after a card reaches the state of maturity?

    Sounds a bit unusual, but I'm really curious to know why and when in this case you use all those sophisticated manipulations with steps that we discussed earlier in another thread. I mean these words:

    >>___ I have overcome this problem with 3 fast clicks: 'o'-->Arrow_down-->OK.
    1 Add one more Option_group 'Learn-8-15' with steps 8 15 ;
    2 When you are failing the step 15 ( using the options 'Learn-1-8-15' ) :
    'o' --> opens the Options screen; Arrow down --> selects the Second option group;
    OK...

    Do you still need these tiny micro intervals after all those 21 days of very intense repetitions?

    Another question: how do you import all your paper cards into Anki?

    And finally, how much time do you normally spend on flashcards (both paper and electronic) with all that everyday routine? Double work requires a little bit of dedication, I suspect.

  6. 6 Posted by ZapBeeb on 06 Jun, 2015 09:19 AM

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    There is also a website, you can google it, that focused on "procedural knowledge" and Anki.

  7. 7 Posted by Dave_L on 22 Jun, 2015 02:37 AM

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    In a similar situation, with 12 items, I created four clozes: the first card has items 1-3 missing, the second has 4-6 missing, etc.

    When I was first learning the cards, each time I reviewed the cards, whether or not I answered correctly, I recited the whole list aloud several times.

    In a case such as yours, where it's essential to know the list perfectly, I think you have to rely on old fashioned repetition.

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