Anki Mental Overload

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18 Jul, 2014 02:12 PM

I was going to make this a post about how terrible it feels sometime to sit mindlessly press buttons on Anki, but here is the real issue: after a certain period of learning, lets say a week of 20 new cards and 100 review cards, my mind becomes completely hostile to Anki and to (language) learning in general.

  1. 1 Posted by mnhende2 on 18 Jul, 2014 07:55 PM

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    @Tomac:

    It is good to be aware of and sensitive to your mindset when
    doing Anki. Learning happens best when we are engaged,
    excited, etc. Many, many factors affect our mindset, such as:

    -- Content

    -- Timing of study (what time of day)

    -- Length of study (how long you study in one sitting)

    -- Quantity of study (how many reviews in one sitting)

    -- And on and on.

    It is good to experiment to find out what patterns work for
    you. Some people find that doing no more than 20 minutes at a
    time is right. Some people break it up over multiple times a
    day. Some people just limit the total number of new cards, and
    thus limit the total number of reviews in a day. Some people
    like to jog or do the treadmill while doing Anki. Others
    dislike some of these things.

    One note that is important though, is that it usually takes
    about 3-4 weeks from adjusting your daily new card limit, until
    the new "norm" is established. It just takes that long for the
    new number to be really reflected in the total reviews.

    But as it is now, for you, it seems that you have too much
    total volume or at least too much in a single sitting.

    Best,

    mnhende2

  2. 2 Posted by User 120 on 18 Jul, 2014 09:34 PM

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    Thank you, sort of, but you see my goal is to actually do the 20 new cards and 100 reviews every day. If you were to suggest that I do 5 new cards and 20-30 review cards, that is what I do now when I don't meet my goal.

  3. 3 Posted by User 120 on 18 Jul, 2014 09:41 PM

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    Some people have suggested caffeine, others (Xaio) have suggested ritalin. I think thats a bit over the top, but caffeine does seem to help somewhat.

    Other than that there is the idea of self discipline, which obviously none of use have (sofar).

  4. 4 Posted by ZapBeeb on 19 Jul, 2014 11:42 AM

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    Self what?

    Sorry now i have to do some rev... squirrel!

  5. 5 Posted by rjgoif on 19 Jul, 2014 09:13 PM

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    I found that the most important method of preventing this is a) find out how many new cards per day you should allow in order to b) never limit your daily reviews so you don't fall behind while preventing Anki-fatigue.

    The balance takes a while to work out. I found that tweaking the number of daily new cards by only a couple can have profound effects on how well I do overall and how fatigued I become. The equilibrium can take weeks to work out, however.

  6. 6 Posted by User 120 on 21 Jul, 2014 06:29 PM

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    This will work I think, and I will try it out. I let my review cards increase to a very high number by doing 100 new cards for a day for a week half a year ago when I began the deck.

  7. 7 Posted by jlownie on 28 Jul, 2014 05:19 AM

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    For me 20 cards/day is quite a heavy load and I've never kept it up for more than 5 days per week. And I can only do it when focusing on study, without much else occupying my attention. It helps if I do the learning early in my day, when my mind is still fresh, and I also prefer to separate revision and learning new cards (although I think it is probably more effective to mix the two together).

    As rjgoif said, if your learning workload is too high you will burn out your motivation. From what you said, you workload is too high. Try 10 cards per day. Don't be too focused on quick results unless you are trying to learn a small body of knowlege. If you are using Anki for language learning, you are going to be doing it for years to come, so it is important to set a comfortable pace.

    - James

  8. 8 Posted by User 120 on 28 Jul, 2014 04:23 PM

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    You are referring to 10 new cards a day (not counting reviews)? What number of reviews do you have per day?

  9. 9 Posted by jlownie on 29 Jul, 2014 06:31 AM

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    Yes I meant 10 new cards per day. At the moment my review is about 17
    cards per day, I haven't learned anything new for a while. At it's peak
    it was about 80 cards which is quite a load. I found that it is
    important to answer quickly. You need to put a bit of time pressure on
    yourself in order to build up a reflexive response, if you take your
    time you don't learn as well. It's better to go quickly and have more
    failures than to go slowly. So the 80 cards would take me a while,
    sometimes 30-40 minutes, whereas today I would do 17 in 2-3 minutes.

  10. 10 Posted by User 120 on 25 Jan, 2015 08:25 PM

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    It has occurred to me now that this "overload" is related to a general memory capacity limit. I block out a lot of my old memories and this probably limits my ability to learn/remember new things. I have started trying to remember old things and write them down, but I haven't gotten very far with it.

  11. 11 Posted by Vit on 26 Jan, 2015 09:38 PM

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    This is what I do to keep going and to reduce the load:
    1. Leeches. Consider to suspend some of them; change leaches threshold to 5 ?
    2. Use many Note Types.
    3. Make your own cards.
    4. Look at the chart "Answer buttons".
    5. Suspend some of your Production cards.
    5.2 Suspend the Low frequency Words.
    6. Keep your blood flowing by doing some exercises during the breaks.
    7. Praise yourself often during the study, out loud and sincerely.
    8. With 20 new cards and 100 Review cards you have enough data to see your Daily Retention % and adjust Intervals and Steps let's say every 3-5 days -- until the Retention scores are within the desired range.
    9. In the Front field, do you use Hints, Mnemonics, partial sentences ?
    10. Keep siblings ( and cards for different meanings of a word ) spaced significantly apart (to reduce 'wasted' reps ) using :
    a) Reposition - for new cards b) Reschedule - for review cards

    I hope you will find a few of my points useful.

  12. 12 Posted by User 120 on 26 Jan, 2015 11:08 PM

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    I'll give some thought to #7, though it goes against my "values". Once I have read all the information on the card twice (figuring out what each thing is), I don't have much trouble remembering. I mean, I don't even get past reading and looking at the card :)

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